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Russian T-90 tank in the air
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Keep the Russian toys, here's the best Main Battle Tank in the world:

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Talking Merkavas, you say?

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Italian IVECO C1-Mk2 "Ariete" ("Ram") Main Battle Tank.



Italian IVECO VCC-80 "Dardo" ("Hitfist") Infantry Fighting Vehicle



Italian IVECO B-1 "Centauro" ("Centaur") Fast Reconnaissance/Anti-Tank Vehicle (a longer version is used as heavy Armored Personnel Carrier)

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That tank not only survived, but was put back into service after repairs.

The Merkava is the most heavily armored tank in there is, and has the best survival rate and crew protection of any tank in the world. Far better than the Abrams and the various European knock-offs. Every single detail of the Merkava is designed to keep the crew alive.

There are cases where Abrams have been knocked out of action by RPGs, something that cannot be said of a Merkava... Especially considering that the Merkava Mk4 is the only tank in the world with an onboard active anti-rocket and anti-missile system in service.

I won't even mention the various other onboard systems that knock every other service tank out of the contest.

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In combat, the Merkava is the best tank in the world, bar none. It even has the capability to engage helicopters with its main gun for chrissakes.


But it's not a vehicle designed for deployability, or range. It's designed for the sole purpose of fighting in the territories around Israel.

It's too heavy, too slow, and doesn't get enough range out of a full tank of gas to be much use in lots of scenarios.

But for the purposes of the IDF, it's absolutely perfect.
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The only thing is I think the Merkava could use some sloped armor on its sides. That would make it wider, but more resistant to sabots. But it could be a secondary benefit as well; a sloping side piece added as a "snap on" attachment could also be a place to store extra fuel, away from the interior of the tank and ready to be jettisonned if it were liable to light. But that's if it's diesel. On the other hand, if its built right, even if it was gasoline and blew up it might not be that big a deal; such an indirect explosion would blow the thing off the side, instead of damaging the interior.
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In combat, the Merkava is the best tank in the world, bar none. It even has the capability to engage helicopters with its main gun for chrissakes.


But it's not a vehicle designed for deployability, or range. It's designed for the sole purpose of fighting in the territories around Israel.

It's too heavy, too slow, and doesn't get enough range out of a full tank of gas to be much use in lots of scenarios.

But for the purposes of the IDF, it's absolutely perfect.


Incorrect on the weight, speed and range differences.

The Merkava Mk4 has a combat weight of 65 tons.

The M1A2 Abrams has a combat weight of 68.4 tons, and the M1A2 SEP is 69.5 tons.

The M1A2 has a top road speed of 67km/h, the Merkava Mk4 has a top road speed of 64km/h.

The M1A2 has a maximum cross-country speed of 48km/h, the Merkava Mk4 has a maximum cross country speed of 54km/h.

The M1A2 SEP is even slower.

The Merkava Mk4 has a unrefueled range of 500kms, the M1A2 has an unrefueled range of 391kms.
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