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Looks like the local paesanos 'taking care' of some African playas.

Italy to deploy 500 soldiers to troubled Naples region
Sep 23 08:36 AM US/Eastern
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Italy approved Tuesday the deployment of 500 soldiers to the Naples region where an attack blamed on the local mafia left an Italian and six Africans dead.
Interior Minister Roberto Maroni announced the planned three-month deployment in a televised statement following a cabinet meeting to discuss the crisis sparked by twin attacks last Thursday in Caserta and Castelvolturno, both near Naples.
The killings took the lives of a 53-year-old Italian owner of a local gambling hall and six nationals of Liberia, Togo and Ghana. Police made their first arrest in the case on Monday.
The scale of the carnage was nearly without precedent even in a region in the grips of the notorious Camorra mafia.
The Casalesi clan, considered the Camorra's most dangerous and powerful, controls drug trafficking and prostitution in the Caserta area where most of the soldiers will be sent.
The brutal show of force may have been a settling of scores linked to drug trafficking, but investigators have made no official comment.
Bolstering the police forces with soldiers has had "excellent results" in the past, Maroni told reporters on Monday.
Another 3,000 soldiers have already been deployed in troubled Italian cities to boost security, billed as a top priority for the centre-right government that came to power in May.
Rome used soldiers to fight the Sicilian Mafia, the Cosa Nostra, after the assassinations of judges Giovanni Falcone and Paolo Borsellino in 1992.
Codenamed Sicilian Vespers, the operation lasted six years.

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Thumbs down "Public service", you call it?

Those Ghanians were running drugs under orders of a rival Cosca ("family" in the slang of the Camorra, which is -NOT- Mafia, it's a different criminal organization). That's why they were killed.

As for soldiers patrolling the streets, it's a populistic move by this shitty right-wing government. They are putting soldiers with mere pistols (not even rifles or SMGs) out on patrol with common cops, trying to give to the masses a perception of "increased safety" that doesn't exists. In the meanwhile, they're NOT enhancing our Police forces (not much to be done about that, anyway, just taking some privileged fat-ass Police bureaucrat out of the offices where they've been sitting doing desk work for the past 10 years and put them on the streets where we need them), sending Alitalia to bankruptcy, refusing a very convenient Air France buyout offer just to give it to some personal friends of the Premier, Mr. Silvio Berlusconi, again saying populistically to the Italian people that "Our flag carrier must remain solely in Italian hands", and moving behind our backs to strip us of our guns.

As for the perceived "increase in the number of illegal aliens in Italy", that's just the kind of racism the Right-wing government lives on. They accept and encourage racism so much that a few days ago an African immigrant, suspected of having stolen ONE BISCUIT (yes, ONE BISCUIT) from a bar has been chased down and beaten to death by the bartenders in a town nearby Milan.
What they forget to tell to the Italians is that those people comes here just looking for a better life, hell, just trying to survive, much like the Italians themselves did within the end of the 19th Century and the 1950s in the US, in Canada, in South America, in Germany and in Australia. Those immigrants who commit crimes, they either do it for a living, and all they resolve themselves to do is some petty crime, or engage in worse criminal activities as workforce in the hands of ITALIAN criminal organizations. They are frequently used for moonlightning, and when they die in accidents 'cause they're put to make dangerous workds for a few Euros, their bodies conveniently disappear.

ALL FOREIGN CITIZENS FLEEING FROM COUNTRIES RULED BY DICTATORSHIPS HAVE RIGHT TO ASYLUM IN ITALY. So says our CONSTITUTION. This, obviously, it's another one of the things that the Right wing doesn't respects. Mr. Berlusconi himself is under trial for several charges of corruptions and fraud, and has conveniently changed the laws to stop his trials (see HERE).

Don't trust what they say about how things go in Italy. You have an insider who can give you a better point of view about. Above all, DON'T BELIEVE what the Italian government says. It's the closest thing we have to a dictatorship.
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"ALL FOREIGN CITIZENS FLEEING FROM COUNTRIES RULED BY DICTATORSHIPS HAVE RIGHT TO ASYLUM IN ITALY."

Does that include Americans?
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Does that include Americans?

The day it will become a dictatorship, yes. Sure, unless our Government will keep playing the whore with the U.S. Government even if it becomes dictatorial, as I am almost sure it (we) would.
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What they forget to tell to the Italians is that those people comes here just looking for a better life, hell, just trying to survive, much like the Italians themselves did within the end of the 19th Century and the 1950s in the US, in Canada, in South America, in Germany and in Australia. Those immigrants who commit crimes, they either do it for a living, and all they resolve themselves to do is some petty crime, or engage in worse criminal activities as workforce in the hands of ITALIAN criminal organizations. They are frequently used for moonlightning, and when they die in accidents 'cause they're put to make dangerous workds for a few Euros, their bodies conveniently disappear.
In Brazil (end of 19th century) italians arrived to replaced slaves. They were very badly treated and many lost their lives even just because they dare to stare at the landlord daughter. Were they killed because of staring or because of being foreigners?

If you go to Germany now, with an italian plate automobile, you'll be probably stopped somewhere by police, your car will be searched and your documents checked. It happened to me seven times in the past years and collegues report even higher scores. If Italy would ever start to check foreigners like that, some stupid asshole will claim civil rights were not respected.

In Australia, an italian will never be called australian. Even if their family arrived a century ago, they will be called italians. And australian society will always see them differently from "real australians" (british).

I think killing a guy because of a biscuit is wrong (if you think he was killed just because he was black, you're wrong - he made the first move - the reaction was too strong - ). I also think that doing nothing is wrong. You don't know the stress of running a bar nowadays. Criminals come in, take the cash and go without problems. You live in fear. You pay taxes that turn into no protection at all. So, it's understandable that if you see someone stealing from your shop, you will not feel happy - as you were abbandoned from the government, you take your own measures - but then, after you've taken law in your hands, government turns up only to punish you. Not fair.

We are paying for nothing - we are left outside alone. All the rest is horseshit talking. What we need is action, strong and soon. Military Police on the streets cannot fight mafia (we know), but it's a slight psicological sign to the young generation. It's a sign that something is happening. What we need more checks, more efficiency on law enforcement (presently there's only a bunch of unprepared clowns in uniform just filling statistic forms).

And don't come with that shit about right (or left) wing government. In Italy there's no government at all.

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Gee, sounds like Mexico. Now if you want to see a backwards anything goes country where the criminal class actually does rule then that's the place to check out.
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Now if you want to see a backwards anything goes country where the criminal class actually does rule then that's the place to check out.

according to above statement, we should leave this planet

and don't tell me that there's a place on earth not ruled by criminals


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just read "Gomorra", very interesting.
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Own it, read it and love it. Roberto Saviano definitely has brass balls. Too bad he is forced to live in a classified location under Carabinieri protection for writing that book.
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