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Old 10-19-2009
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Question ID These MG's

An attempt to chamber the MG42 in .50 BMG?:


And this one?:


Source: http://www.zonamilitar.com.ar/foros/...?t=1010&page=4

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Default Re: ID These MG's

If the first one is really German WW2 era, it probably isn't .50 BMG, more likely 13mm or 15mm.

The second one, for some reason, looks to me like an attempt to turn a bolt action receiver into a machine gun.
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Default Hmmm...

In no way the first one appears like a modification of existing German WW2 13mm/15mm machineguns (aircraft-mounted Mg131 and tank-mounted Mg151 respectively). The second is clearly a Maxim gun variant.

Take note however that your source clearly states that the guns are "Made in Argentina". During the 1940s and 1950s the Argentineans (through CITEFA, the Argentinean Armed Forces' Scientific and Technical Research Institute) experimented in clones and variants of WW-2 german firearms; in the early 1950s they even produced an Mp44 clone, planning adoption. If one's not an expert of the history of Argentinean arms production, it would be hard to guess. My opinion is that the first one may be a CITEFA prototype, maybe in .50, maybe in 14mm or 15mm, while the second might just as well be a German Maxim clone made in Argentina by HAFDASA (manufacturer of the "Ballester Molina" pistol).
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ZB-50 machine gun, 7.92x57mm. Should have been chambered in 13mm/15mm to start with due to the weapons size for its type it may have been more sucessful:


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http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/MG/I/MG-4.html

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