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One curiosity about the 0.30 Pedersen device short cartridge: could it be named as a "forerunner" for the .30-M1 cartridge?
No but as a "forerunner" for the 7,65mm French Long.
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Yeah the .30 Pederson round was far, far weaker than the .30 Carbine, and probably would have been of questionable effectiveness in the desired role.
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The .30 M1 was specifically designed for the M1 Carbine. To be a lightweight alternative to the Garand during early WW2. Filling the gap between pistol and Rifle, (with moderate success if you ask me).

BTW, have any of you ever seen a bushmaster? Does anyone have a pic?
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BTW, have any of you ever seen a bushmaster? Does anyone have a pic?
I don't understand what you want to say about Bushmaster ?
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Springfield Armory M1903 "Bushmaster"

These improvised carbines were regular issue M1903's that were modified by GI's and some were belived to be coded with BUSH for Bushmaster. The bushmaster had both the barrel cutdown to 18'' for convenience and mobility just as the enfield changed into the "Jungle-carbine". The stock was even shorter the the former experimental Cavalry Carbine of 1920, completely missing the front part of the stock. It is belived that 4,725 such rifles were configured into bushmasters by troops stationed in Panama around 1940. It was used there as a training rifle but never saw action in the war. After the war they were destroyed by dumping them into the ocean a few miles outside Panama.

Picture #1 shows a regular issue early M1903 just like the ones to be re-configured into a Bushmaster

Picture #2 shows the experimental Cavalry Carbine of 1920

For further info see US Martial Arms Collector and Springfield Research Newsletter issue # 91
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Thank you for your explanation.
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