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Old 11-28-2006
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Help,
I found this old revolver in my garage and i cant identify it.
It was my grandfathers, who was an officer in the WWI in the Serbian army.
Markings on the pistol are much warn out, only thing visible is: "cal. 380" and a star with inicials "F.A" on top of it.
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Looks like a belgian type bulldog revolver, puppy hammerless (No 3403)

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It is definitely a ''Bulldog'' or Velodog fr. the need of cyclists to fight of wild dogs. FA could perhaps be Fagnus, A. Belgium? these type of little pocket revolvers are one of the most common types of its times and exist in numerous variations. What does it look like on the other side? Does it look ilke the one showed by roger, or like maybe this: (see pic).
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What does the stamp look like, does it have a crown like this?

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Roger, Cesare thank you.
Now i am certain that it is a model 22-44 like in a Cesare's pic, it has a longer barell tnan the 22-43.

The stamp looks like this:
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The drawing 22-43 looks like the belgian puppy hammerless No 3403. The drawing 22-44 has an octogonal barrel but otherwise this Bulldog is very similar with the ID revolver.
As say Cesare: "these type of little pocket revolvers are one of the most common types of its times and exist in numerous variations."
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I think that your revolver is a Puppy manufactured by the Spanish Francisco Arizmendi. F.A. is abbreviation for Francisco Arizmendi on handguns.
Arizmendi, Francisco From 1886 to 1914 in Eibar, Spain. In 1914 the name was changed to Francisco Arizmendi. The earlier company was best known for their revolvers, while after 1914 the emphasis was changed to pistols,and they were produced under many trade names.
Francisco Arizmendi was the Spanish manufacturer of Puppy revolvers.
He was too the manufacturer of several pocket pistols like the Roland (picture 37-314, see the proof on the grip):
http://www.earmi.it/armi/atlas/246.htm
There is too a Singer pistol manufactured by Francisco Arizmendi and the Czech Frantisek Dusek.

http://proofhouse.com/cm/codes_markings.htm


MAKE: Velodog
MODEL 1st gun: Geco Revolver
MODEL 2nd & 3rd gun: Midget Hammerless
MADE 1st gun: Spain
MADE 2nd & 3rd gun: Belgium
CALIBER: 25 ACP
SERIAL NUMBER 1st gun: 27850
SERIAL NUMBER 2nd & 3rd gun: N/A
YEAR MADE 1st gun: 1933
YEAR MADE 2nd & 3rd gun: 1923-1940
TYPE: small frame fixed-cylinder double action only 5-round cartridge revolver
Velodogs are common folding trigger pocket revolvers that were designed to protect bicycle riders from wild dogs and highwaymen, old wives tale. Frenchman Rene Galand built the first ones. #1 built at Francisco Arizmendi in Spain for German distributor Gustav Genschow. Without metal finish, 1.75" barrel, backstrap safety lever would have been state of the art in 1833. Marked: CAL 6.35 - "F.A. crescent with star" (Arizmendi) - "X inside shield" (Eibar) - "R inside bomb" (revolver) - "star over F" (1933) - 44. French language import mark: IMPORTE D'ESPAGNE. #2 & #3 were manufactured in Liege for Chicago based mail-order distributor Rohde-Spencer. Case coloring, 1.5" barrels. Marked #2: BELGIUM - FOR 25 CAL. COLTS CARTR. - MIDGET HAMMERLESS - "ELG" (Belgium) - FEU & SUR (fire & safe) - "star over cP" - "lion P.V" (smokeless) - "crown over R" (rifled barrel) - (barrel & cyl) 1 - (frame) 5. Marked #3: "ELG" - "star over AI" - "lion P.V" - "crown over R" - 3 - "circle D" - G - (frame, cyl, barrel, inside grips) 26 (factory ID or batch number)."

http://www.geocities.com/alancook.geo/alanguns.htm
http://www.geocities.com/alancook.ge...nrevolver2.jpg

...Both sides of the frame display Spanish maker's Francisco Arizmendi trade mark, "Star over Half Crescent"...
http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/P...s/ngp_0044.JPG
http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/P.../ngp_0044a.JPG
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