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Were there ever a civilian auto-ordnance thompson "tommy" in 10mmAuto, and does anyone know how many semiauto versions there were - companies making copies?
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No, from what I know the 10mm Tommy was FBI only, and even for them it was only a handful of converted guns the FBI already owned.
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Question Eagle Carbine

Thanks JC thats what i figured, anyone heard of a semiauto tommy-copy referred to as "Eagle-Carbine"?
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Exclamation Semiauto/Non Auto-Ordnance/Tommy-Knockoffs

Eagle Carbine
The Eagle Carbine was one of the first produced, but as far as i have understood, it was identitcal to the Spitfire both in terms of apperance and operation.

Spitfire Carbine
The Spitfire Carbine, manufactured by the Spitfire Manufacturing Co., Phoenix, Arizona. The Spitfire Carbine is a .45 caliber long-gun which resembles a submachinegun in appearance, firing from an open bolt in semiautomatic configuration. It was originally designed as a semi auto plinker and it worked great and reportedly accurate.

But the weapon design had some unfortunate flaws; sear and safety lever were such that when the safety lever is depressed at the time the trigger is pulled, the sear will jam in its lowered position and cause full-automatic firing. Also disengagement of the sear spring or the trigger spring would facilitate fullauto. These full auto bursts lasted from 3-round bursts to total emptying the whole magazine. Therefore this gun came under National Firearms Act and became defined as a Class-III machinegun.

Here are two Videos of the spitfire;
HERE (20meg) firing a 70rnd magazine
and
HERE (4meg) with silencer
Besides the spitfire there was another tommy-copy that was sucessfull, made by the the Volunteer Enterprises.

Comparision between the Spitfire (top) and Volunteer Ent. carbine (bottom)
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Volunteer Enterprises

Volunteer Enterprises, Inc. made an early Volunteer with a round receiver they called Volunteer Carbine. After some minor changes they called the carbine Commando MkIII, then MkIV (in 9mm Luger), all models fired from a closed bolt. The Mk III was a .45acp caliber semi-auto rifle with a 16,5 inches barrel and, peep rear sight and vertical frontgrip. Commando MK III uses a 30-round M3A1 Greasegun Magazine and was manufactured between 1969 to 1976.

USA Volunteer enterprises Commando III 45acp x30 Left view

USA Volunteer enterprises Commando III 45acp x30 Right view

In 1978 Volunteer Enterprises changed name into Commando Arms and the models names were designated Mk45 (.45acp) and Mk9 (9mm) without any physical changes. Spitfire and Commando Arms were closely connected and the Volunteer Carbine pretty much was a spitfire.


USA Volunteer enterprises Commando Mk45

Manchester Arms
A central person was James McCown, He worked at Spitfire and then started Volunteer Enterprises finally he went to Manchester Arms. Manchester Arms Inc. was a manufacturer located in Lenoir TN, made the Mini Commando Mk45 pistol which was a cut-down version thompson style gun. This little powerhouse had a 5 inch barrel with a muzzle brake using std. 30-round M3A1 .45acp magazines. See Pics below
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There were also some Kit-guns, made by RPB industries & West Hurley Auto Ordnance parts. Like these two;
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