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KLIK DA LINK to reach the site of ARMI E TIRO, an Italian gun magazine.
This month, the Staff has tried for us three submachineguns from World War 2, two of them being quite interesting and rare pieces of weaponry. The "touchstone" of the three is the notorious British STEN; the others are the German Mp-3008, low-cost STEN knock-off, and the VARIARA, a clandestine-made Italian machine-carbine built by the Resistance partisan fighters in secret workshops during the Nazi occupation. On a side note about the Mp-3008... I have finally catched out a book about Italian submachineguns, and there are some lines about the Mp-3008 (some samples of which ended up in the hands of Italian fascist troops too), and its forerunner: in fact, before the Mp-3008, the Germans manufactured an SMG known as the GERAT-POTSDAM: it was a STEN-Mk2 clone, a 100% clone (even the markings were exactly reproduced), whose task was to equip infiltrator units behind enemy lines. The book I am talking about is "I MITRA ITALIANI - 1915-1991", it was written by VITTORIO BALZI, published in 1992 and under request until 2000, and is now out of catalogue (I have obtained one because it was published by EDITORIALE OLIMPIA, the same publishers of DIANA ARMI, the gun magazine I am currently contributing to); ISBN code is (was) #8825319304. Exactly on page 133, under the chapter dedicated to the TZ-45 machine-carbine, the book states that while only 10'000 Mp-3008s were produced, the GERAT-POTSDAM submachineguns were produced from the end of 1944 and nearly until the end of the war in number ranging from 25'000 to 30'000, and their production was Top-Secret, discovered only after the conflict was over. Those submachineguns were never actually used in their "primary intent" (infiltration-saboteur troops), and ended up in the end of the lasrt Wehrmacht soldiers resisting the incoming Allied invasion of Germany.
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"It is criminal to teach a man not to defend himself, when he is the constant victim of brutal attacks. It is legal and lawful to own a shotgun or a rifle. We believe in obeying the law." -- Malcolm X "We (atheists) act in good conscience because we believe in moral principles, not because we expect a reward in Heaven." -- Margherita Hack
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Again from ARMI E TIRO a video of a rare Italian SMG being fired, this time a modern one, the SOCIMI Type 821 (Italian improved Mini-UZI).
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"It is criminal to teach a man not to defend himself, when he is the constant victim of brutal attacks. It is legal and lawful to own a shotgun or a rifle. We believe in obeying the law." -- Malcolm X "We (atheists) act in good conscience because we believe in moral principles, not because we expect a reward in Heaven." -- Margherita Hack
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Ud 42, Beretta M12, Franchi G41 Mp 41 calibro 9 mm Winchester M2, Bar 1918, Ppsh 41, M3 Grease gun, Tz 45 |
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