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Exclamation So this is what's going on in Pakistan.

Great, democratic ally of the United States in the so-called "War on Terror".

Will your Country ever mind, one day, to stop giving support to certain people?
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Default Re: So this is what's going on in Pakistan.

Would you mind, one day, to stop talking out of your ass?

What is it with you, PT? Is there nothing you can't figure out how to use as a tool to disparage America?

Let one thing be perfectly clear- you live freely ONLY because of America. You sleep peacefully in your bed ONLY because of America. That goes for the entire world- wherever there is freedom, it is under the American aegis, and Americans have spent blood and treasure to bring it there. You don't have a prayer without America to protect you. Without us, any one of your friends in the Maghreb could take over your piece of shit country, and any two of them together could take your whole shitpoke continent. You can stick your 'so-called war on terror' up your ass, PT- only an idiot would seriously suggest there's not an actual war happening. Are they 'so-called' Islamic Terrorists? Are the victims of said Islamics 'so-called' dead, or are they actually dead?

Try making some sense, Cazzolino- you'll find people hate, scorn, and ridicule you much less.

We'll support who we like, for whichever reasons we choose- and you'll have nothing to do with the decision. Your lot is ONLY to suck it up and live with it.

When Europeons (especially you dull, lazy wops) start producing something with value, and finally develop the means to protect yourselves, then you get to make some of the decisions.

Until then, you may as well all drop to your collective(ist) knees, and blow us.
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Default Re: So this is what's going on in Pakistan.

Last time I checked, Pakisatan was one of the very few countrys kicking the shit out of these fucking terrorists. And doing a damn good job too. And in Pakistan (unlike America) their hands aren't tied with politically correct idiocy.
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Default Re: So this is what's going on in Pakistan.

Woah, the soldier in that picture has an SKS. But anyhow PT you have to look at it this way. Imagine life in Pakistan. Like here in America where we have a constant influx of illegal aliens from Mexico, they have the same thing in Pakistan. But in Pakistan they have pro Taliban forces coming in and commiting serious crimes. It's a drastic move yes, but General Musharraf knows what he's doing. He's a patriot and he's been aound for a long time. He dosn't want to see his country fall into chaos like Afghanistan. Drastic times call for drastic measures.
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Angry Okay, HERE's the overall situation.

Point #1 - America is a "Close friend and Ally" of Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia is the Country of provenience of the biggest overall number of terrorists. It's also the Country of provenience of the biggest financial support for terrorist organization. Most of the money flux that feeds Al-Qaeda and shit like that comes from Saudi Arabia. Saudis were also almost all of the 9/11 hijackers. The very same Saudi royal family is heavily compromised with terrorism, which they finance with oil money (OUR money, the money we pay for the fuel we use for our cars, heating and power), while they "vow solemnly" to fight terrorism.

Point #2 - America is a "Close friend and Ally" of Pakistan.

Pakistan is second in all of the above only to Saudi Arabia itself. There is not such thing as "Pro-Taliban forces entering in Pakistan from Afghanistan to commit acts of terrorism". No. It's just the scum getting back home and trying to take power in their homecountry 'cause the Coalition Forces are kicking them out of Afghanistan. In fact the Talibans are PAKISTANIS, not Afghans. That's where the "Students of the Quran" come from. In their fight for power in Afghanistan, they have received enormous support from the Pakistani Armed Forces and the DISI ("Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence", the Secret Services of Pakistan). The same agencies are still today heavily infiltrated by pro-Taliban members and are considered to be the major sources of informations leaks that sometimes put the Talibans and other terrorists in conditions of advantage against the Coalition Forces.

Now, am I the only one around here who thinks that there's something VERY wrong?
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Default Re: So this is what's going on in Pakistan.

So, let's put this in simpler terms.


You would be happy about the entire Middle East situation if the USA invaded Pakistan and Saudi Arabia too?
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You would be happy about the entire Middle East situation if the USA invaded Pakistan and Saudi Arabia too?

I would be happy if the United States, and the entire West (including Italy) would single-handedly stop supporting totalitarian regimes who stab them in the back every day.
A great start would be to shift from oil to other alternative sources of fuel and power. You'll see the terrorism money drop by a drastic 70% at least (all the rest comes from drug profits since Al-Qaeda practically owns Afghanistan, which is the biggest heroin opium plantation in the world). Not to mention that it would be a great lesson for the pigs of the Saudi royal family, who get fatter and fatter daily retaining for themselves most of the oil profits while their people starves to death and is plagued by a regime based upon religious beliefs that uphold a 13th Century mentality (yes, that's Islam... well, living in a Country that practically hosts Vatican, I can say that Catholicism is not much better).
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Default Re: So this is what's going on in Pakistan.

"A great start would be to shift from oil to other alternative sources of fuel and power."

I agree.
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Default Re: So this is what's going on in Pakistan.

I just wish someone would pick one.

All practical common sense that hydrogen... is /IT/. It's the one.

Yet some of these guys still leech money and potential market share on electric and biodiesel and crap like that, which is only going to delay the change to hydrogen powered vehicles as gas stations and such evaluate their options.



Although hydrogen isn't going to become the new economic backbone just like that. Bottom line is it's just too common to be that valuable. Eventually someone's going to undercut, and someone else undercutting until they can't afford to undercut anymore, and that'll be Hydrogen fuel's price. Something is going to displace oil (...not... literally. I mean, that's not supposed to be a pun or anything... ahh fuck it) REPLACE oil as the economic backbone of the world economy, but hydrogen isn't it. Makes you wonder what it's going to be.
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Arrow And HERE is the whole problem!

The very same concept of "Economic Backbone" is the whole problem! I mean, there simply is too much money running around oil, and THAT's what stops the development of alternative sources for power, energy, and fuel. The while problem stays in the fact that we assume that somebody has to make money on that, unless, nothing.

But here, we are facing a problem of common good, that's so big that all your libertarian-capitalistic points of view must be forcefully put aside. The whole thing is simply too important. We need a source of energy that must be clean, virtually infinite, abundant, accessible to anybody, and totally public, controlled and administered by the State so that nobody makes money leeching on a common need. Take a look around and you'll find why: oil is running out, oil-related activities pollute, and the oil money is what finances most of wars and acts of terrorism worldwide, even more than drug traffic. If you still think that capitalism is more important than that, think: keeping up with this pace, in the turn of about one century, there may not be a market economy any longer. The whole system is simply no longer sustainable.
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