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Some pictures from the Shot Show 2007:
http://www.gunblast.com/SHOT_Show_2007.htm
http://lundestudio.com/2007SHOTShow
http://www.onpointfirearms.com/shots...7_Photos_Day_1

Beretta's Px4 Storm .45 and Px4 Storm .45 SOCOM pistols


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Exclamation Rainer arms Masada

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I'm just worried with the name "Masada" what it does to the user if you're outnumbered...
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Still a bit too advanced for a suicide special dont you think?
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Need to know:

The empty weight of the Masada.

The current estimated MSRP.

Current projected release date.

What is the serialized part? If anyone notices, there is a lower designed to take AK-style magazines. If the upper is the serialized part, one could have both lowers without having to go through the BATFEs song-and-dance twice.

How hard would it be to rechamber it to take other rounds, like 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, or 7.62x39? The AK-magazine lower almost makes me think they already have designed it to be rechambered in 7.62x39 (and if it can feed 7.62x39, it can feed 6.5 Grendel, with a new barrel, bolt [maybe, might be able to use the 7.62x39 bolt if it can take the pressure], and magazine).

Does it only work with the stocks provided (I see at least two versions... one is a version of the magpul sniper stock), or will it take any AR-15 stock?

Does it work only with the grips provided, or will it take any AR-15 grip?

I notice there are different length gas-pistons for different barrel lengths... I need this explained... Almost looks like piston versions of the AR-15 Carbine, Middy and Rifle gas systems.

How hard would it be to add a bayonet lug?

Just how air/watertight is the receiver? That has a big impact on how well it keeps dirt out.

Does it not have a fold-away trigger guard like the M16/AR-15? If not, why?

What about these Magpul Polymags? The AR-15 market is in need of a good polymer magazine... Orlites are nice, but we want new products, not surplus. Now we'll have to see which is better, the new SiG 556 polymer mags or the magpul polymags.

And why don't the Magpul Polymags... Have Magpuls?

Two stage trigger or single stage trigger?

Does it come with a 1/9 barrel or a 1/7? And just what are the limits on what kinds of AR-15 barrel you can stick on it?

What exactly does "quick detach" mean on this rifle? "quick detach barrel" means different things to different people (a "quick detach barrel" on an AK is one that only takes a single rubber mallet to get off).

And we need a range report on its accuracy... And someone to dunk it in the mud a dozen times and see if it still works.
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This is so new that all of the Masada rifles there had their bodies made of SLS prototyping material, that made it a cast iron BITCH to field strip.
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Exclamation And while we're talking about caliber-shifting on the MASADA...

...has anybody considered the possibility to fit it for the new-kid-in-the-block SSK 6'5 MPC cartridge?
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So I've got a project for everyone... Find out what kind of polymer it is that the Magpul Masada and Polymags are made of.

It can't be that damn hard to figure out...

I'm currently trying to see what types of new high strength polymer have hit the market in the last year and see if any fit the bill.
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The magazines are engineered from the ground up to be made of injection molded polymer "new to the market" reinforced polymer which is very strong and durable (according to Magpul). I guess the exact compostition is a trade secret but the ones who tested it seems quite impressed. (see ar15.com forums). The Masada has a polymer forearm, lower, and stock, that is made from the same material as the new Pmags reportedly it is hard as steel.

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