This Day in History

Daily Cartoon provided by Bravenet

  #1  
Old 09-27-2008
Colonel Colonel is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 25
Default H&k Mg36

Looking for info, incl high res photos, regarding H&K light machine gun MG36. Googling didn't help much. As I understand it was issued to German gebirgsjaegers. What else? Please, advise.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-27-2008
PT-The Italian Commie's Avatar
PT-The Italian Commie PT-The Italian Commie is offline
Super Senior member - Has no life and spends a lot of time here
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sardinia, Italy
Posts: 2,611
Default Heckler&Koch MG-36 LSW


http://www.gun-world.net/german/hk/g36/mg36cmag_2.jpg
http://www.gun-world.net/german/hk/g36/eab308.jpg
http://www.gun-world.net/german/hk/g36/G36_use.jpg
http://www.gun-world.net/german/hk/g36/MG36.htm

Let's put it in this way: the MG36-LSW was not a particular firearm under no sense; it was the "Light Automatic Rifle" (somebody would now call it an "Infantry Automatic Rifle") entry of the G-36 weapon system; a weapon made to lay down sustained fire within the typical range of a rifle platoon, or a little bit above it, yet not reaching the rate of fire of a Section Automatic Weapon (SAW, like the HK MG-4, FN Minimi/M249-SAW, etc.). Basically it was just a standard G-36 with full-size 19,5-inch (48 centimetres) barrel, equipped with the standard carrying handle w/h the typical two optics of the G-36 system (3,5x optical sight and Reflex sight, only the 1,5 optical sight for the "E" export version) and the standard folding buttstock. Its peculiarity was that it came equipped with an integrated, underfolding bipod to be used when firing prone, and its magazine well was made to accept a STANAG 4179-compliant high-capacity magazine like the BETA C-Mag.

The peculiarities of the MG36-LSW in comparaison with the standard G36 rifle stop here. It had not a particularly long, heavy, free-float, or fluted barrel (something that most of weapons made for sustained fire actually have), nor did it fired from the open bolt or had some particular cooling/ventilation system (something that near ALL machineguns MUST have, to sustain heavy rates of fire and intense use without damages or cook-off episodes). It was just a standard G-36 made to fire, when needed, a little bit more intensly. It was an useless entry in the G-36 weapon system, as the very same standard G-36 could be made into an LSW role, by adding a bipod (if REALLY needed) and by using the standard clear plastic magazines clipped together in a large number so that you can easily switch from one to another and have an ammunition autonomy that's near the one you have with a BETA C-Mag and more than what you need for a similar weapon. If needed, you can even attach a BETA C-Mag to a standard G-36 rifle as (most of people doesn't knows) the magazine well of the entire G-36 weapon system is modular, you can replace it with one that takes STANAG magazines, and you're done.

The MG36-LSW is now out of production. I seriously doubt that anybody could have wanted it, except the Gebirgsjaegers, but they are particular troops, Mountain units like the Italian Alpini or the 10th Mountain Division of the U.S. Army. The warfare they're called to perform doesn't allows many elements to carry big, heavy and cumbersome weapons such as the SAWs. Hironically, what the USMC is trying to procure now (the IAR) is something conceptually similar to this.
__________________
"It is criminal to teach a man not to defend himself, when he is the constant victim of brutal attacks. It is legal and lawful to own a shotgun or a rifle. We believe in obeying the law." -- Malcolm X

"We (atheists) act in good conscience because we believe in moral principles, not because we expect a reward in Heaven." -- Margherita Hack

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-27-2008
Colonel Colonel is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 25
Default Re: H&k Mg36

Thanks, PT, for your comprehensive answer. In fact, my question was exactly provoked by info regarding USMC IAR Project. It says that "the following vendors...successfully responded... with valid proposal: Colt Manufacturing LLC, Fabrique National Herstal, General Dynamics ATR, Heckler & Koch, Knight's Armament Company, and Leitner-Wise Rifle Company". It may mean that H&K participates in this project with MG36. Also interesting what was offered by FNH, providing USMC needed a weapon with box magazine. Modifying Minimi for this purpose?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-28-2008
PT-The Italian Commie's Avatar
PT-The Italian Commie PT-The Italian Commie is offline
Super Senior member - Has no life and spends a lot of time here
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sardinia, Italy
Posts: 2,611
Default Usmc Iar

Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel
Thanks, PT, for your comprehensive answer. In fact, my question was exactly provoked by info regarding USMC IAR Project. It says that "the following vendors...successfully responded... with valid proposal: Colt Manufacturing LLC, Fabrique National Herstal, General Dynamics ATR, Heckler & Koch, Knight's Armament Company, and Leitner-Wise Rifle Company". It may mean that H&K participates in this project with MG36. Also interesting what was offered by FNH, providing USMC needed a weapon with box magazine. Modifying Minimi for this purpose?

The USMC is looking to something NOT belt-fed, something with the same size of a standard infantry rifle yet capable of sustained fire in support role. FN has NOT modified the MINIMI/M249-SAW, instead they have offered a version of the Mk-16 Mod.o (a.k.a. the SCAR) with heavy barrel and a mechanical device near the chamber that senses the chamber temperature and automatically turn the closed bolt gun into a open bolt when the temperature is too high, and back again when it goes back to the lower level; see it HERE.
Colt has submitted, once again, an HBAR/LMG version of the M-16. So I think has done KAC. The IAR entry from Leitner-Wise (now known as LWRC, "Land Warfare Resources Corporation") can be seen HERE. The H&K entry is rumored to be based on the HK-416, nothing to do with the G-36 weapons system (already discared by the US Army: the XM8 family was just the G36 in a plastic shell). I don't know about the General Dynamics entry, but rumors around are that it is an americanized version of the Singaporean Ultimax-100 Mk4. If that's it, that would be the best the USMC can procure right now.
__________________
"It is criminal to teach a man not to defend himself, when he is the constant victim of brutal attacks. It is legal and lawful to own a shotgun or a rifle. We believe in obeying the law." -- Malcolm X

"We (atheists) act in good conscience because we believe in moral principles, not because we expect a reward in Heaven." -- Margherita Hack


Last edited by PT-The Italian Commie : 09-28-2008 at 08:42 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright SecurityArms.com 1995 - 2009