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Old 12-13-2006
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Old 12-14-2006
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It is not american...

it is not a normal plinker...

No guesses?
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Old 12-14-2006
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Lightbulb Couldn't you find a better picture?

I am looking for some good captions of that particular gun since so long...

Anyway, it's a Mexican ARMAS TREJO "Modelo 3", a machine-pistol (selective-fire handgun) in .22 Long Rifle, from the 1950s if I am not wrong.
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Seems a Trejo Model 1, .22 Lr:


ORIGIN - MEXICO
CALIBER - .22 LR
WEIGHT - 22 OZ
OVERALL LENGTH -6.3"
Manufactured in Zacatlan Pueblo, Mexico in the 1960s. Well made. Kniown as “Trejo Tipo Rafaga”. Machine gun type. Semi-automatic fire with a lever in front of the right grip to convert to full automatic. Many were made without the lever, legal in the United States. Magazine is 10 round.


TREJO Model 2, .22 Lr, 15 rounds:

ORIGIN - MEXICO
CALIBER - .22 LR
WEIGHT - 28 OZ
OVERALL LENGTH - 7.68"
Marked “Modelo 2 Especial”, a larger version of the model 1, distinguished by a ventilated rib. Available both semi and full automatic. 15 round magazine.

TREJO Model 3, .380 ACP:

ORIGIN - MEXICO
CALIBER - .380 ACP
WEIGHT - 24 OZ
OVERALL LENGTH - 6.6"
The last model of the Trejo pistols. Available in both semi and full automatic, very few of the full automatics were made.

http://www.triplek.com/Pages/Magazin...agazine_manf/T
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Correctimundo

Very good Roger i am impressed it is not a Model-3 but a model-1, on the other hand it was quite a crappy pic. Triplek is wrong about magazine capacity though.
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Thanks Cesare for congratulations but the true winner is Pierangelo: he found the brand and I have find only the model.

Here a picture of a Trejo Modelo 3 in .22 Lr:

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Trejo Modelo 1
I think it is the smallest full-auto weapon ever made. Even though not well known in the united states it was quite successfull in Mexico, with over 16.000 pieces manufactured by Armas Trejo S.A. Zacatlan between 1952 and 1972. Trejo litterally translates into Apple in english, hence the apple logo on the side of the slide. This little Tactical Machine-Pistol is a blowback action with unlocked firing from a closed bolt. Built for bursts rather than full-auto fire since the magazine capacity is quite limiting. When introduced to the Mexican market there was no prohibition against full-auto capabilities in small calibers like the .22 Long Rifle.

The NFA of 1934 made the import to US small since the 200$ tax of class-2 firearms was far more than the original value of the trejo. The Firearms Act of 68 finally slammed the door into the U.S. (therefore also to much of rest of the world) and finally the mexican government closed down domestic production of firearms for private purchase. The Trejo was also made in semiauto only, a longer BBL model with larger capacity (11-shot) called Modelo 2 came out and also a Modelo 3 in .32auto and 9mmShort/.380acp. (Could say more about them but they were not the Trivia).

Full-auto versions of the Modelo-1 is marked Tipo-Rafaga (selective fire type) and a little Lever with a "R" marked for Rafaga. In all practical senses it is identical to a M1911 which is known to many shooters.
The rate of fire is very high, ranging from 1300-1400 rounds per minute depending on what type of ammuntion you use (higher velocity = higher rate of fire). Bursts can be shot from about three rounds up to a blistring eight bursted out and unloading the whole magazine in 0,4 seconds flat. A minus for this type of construction would be the unreliable .22LR rimfire cartridge.


Trejo Modelo 1 Machine Pistol
Caliber: .22LR
Action: Unlocked blowback, closed bolt selective fire
Rate of fire: 1300-1400rpm
Magazine: 8-shot capacity single-row
Barrel: 3,15''
Sights: Fixed Ramp front open-notch rear
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Ok maybe you could share first prize?

The picture you posted is not a .22LR, as far as i know about 1.000 of modelo 3 (which basically was a larger model 1 firng centerfire cartridges) were made in .32auto and the rest (several thousands) in .380auto.

Your picture comes from HERE

If you read it says: Kal. 9k, W999+, DA, Stahl, Hahn, selten 9K as in Kurz.

Heres a better one:
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Old 12-15-2006
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Thumbs up Yep, THANKS you all!

As for the , I'll gladly let it to Roger.
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