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Old 02-28-2007
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Reply JCoyote,
New system of extracting the case-not activating cartridges.
Speed of pulling trigger isn't important!
Look atachment.
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Dear PT,
The EXTERNAL DESIGN not important!Please look first atachment.
The force needed for moving the bolt 9mm calibre is 14 Kg and with the revolver it can not be measured.For "Bravo 5" it is only about 1 Kg!
Latter we manage to get stisfactory result with forde of only 0.5 Kg.
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I think what PT meant, is that an Ugly gun is harder to sell. But this is not nearly as important as the function, external bling-bling can always be upgraded later. 1Kg sounds incredible!! And you can get it to fire at only 0,5kg (ca 1lbs)!!!
I dont understand how you managed that, i think if you have managed to have the trigger-pressure to set at 1kg i would advice against trying to make it even lighter (there are usually many safety issues), on the other hand i have not fully understood the operative action of your design.
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For past twenty years I was truing to make "Bravo 5"!
Force for of new extacting 1Kg + 4.5 Kg DA!
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Dear Mr. Bezanovic, could you please let me have the scans of the ARMI MAGAZINE article that features ther "Bravo 5"? You'll find my E-Mail contact under my profile.

Oh, as a side note: I am glad that you have managed to reach such a light trigger pull to cycle the slide. Such a lightness, however, requires proper safety measures.

As for external look "not being important", I have my doubts. Even the BERETTA M92-FS is considered today an "outdated" gun, too big and long, by many professionals who instead go for more compact things (remember that the best sold gun in the USA from 2001 to date has been the Croatian HS-2000, a.k.a. the Springfield XD; there were also rumors of the FBI adopting it). Why just don't re-design the system around a lookalike along the lines of a Glock, a modern-conception SIG pistol or something similar?

Oh, and... Cesare... I have partially understood it. The fact is that the "BRAVO 5" has not a "slide that cycles", in the real sense of the word. It reminds me of the fixed-slide M1911-based pistol seen at the 2004 SHOT Show (named "Avenger", made by Hogue Tools Inc.).
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Travel system in Bravo 5.

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...Or like the Austrian LV-Ultramatic "Wolf" target pistol (except for ejection)? So there is in fact no slide but a moving block. It looks double-action operated, which then becomes single-action (DA-SA)? How about gas bleeding (where does the excess gas escape)? Is it like this weird Hogue pistol a delayed blowback gas-system? Zoran, I understand if you can't reveal everything because of patent a.s.o., you should be carefull.

BTW PT thanks for that post of the Hogue creature...
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Ultramatic models LV & SV "Wolf" pistols




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Actually, the bolt travel system of the "Bravo 5", as I can judge from the drawing just attached by Mr. Zoran, looks much more like the one of an oldie, the ROTH-STEYR M-1907 or "Repetierpistole M.07"...
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Hello,
Bolt is actually adapt "Block P-38".
Blok(slide) is actually adapt LUGER.
Bolt travel system is my original invention.
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