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Actually, for an American it's VEERY easy to enter any European country.
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Actually, for an American it's VEERY easy to enter any European country.

Yes, partly because all of our documents are pretty much as detailed as they get.

Besides, do you think your country should accept a passport less detailed than the license you need to drive?
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that's ok if I don't go to jail after barring the mothrfuckr
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Besides, do you think your country should accept a passport less detailed than the license you need to drive?

The Italian driving license features:
#1 - Photography
#2 - Name and surname
#3 - Date of birth and age
#4 - Current address
#5 - Current marital status, but this is facultative.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
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The Italian driving license features:
#1 - Photography
#2 - Name and surname
#3 - Date of birth and age
#4 - Current address
#5 - Current marital status, but this is facultative.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.

#1 Social security number.
#2 Birth Cert
#3 School Records if under age 18.
#4 Proof that all vehicles your own are properly titled, inspected and tagged.
#5 Fingerprints.
#6 Address, both living and mailing [just one if both are the same].
#7 Date of birth.
#8... Oh hell, I don't remember, but there's a bunch more... The paperwork is two damn pages long.
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#1 Social security number.
#2 Birth Cert
#3 School Records if under age 18.
#4 Proof that all vehicles your own are properly titled, inspected and tagged.
#5 Fingerprints.
#6 Address, both living and mailing [just one if both are the same].
#7 Date of birth.
#8... Oh hell, I don't remember, but there's a bunch more... The paperwork is two damn pages long.

This too, but it's not FEATURED in the Driving License, it's what it's required... well, NOT EXACTLY. In Italy, driving licenses are released by the Department of Vehicles and Motors Control Authority, after you have followed a both theorical and practical course, that lasts at least 3 months, in an authorised driving school. You must be 18 y-o or older to apply for a Driving License. The "final exam" is a driving proof with a Department of Vehicles inspector sitting besides you that examinates how do you drive. The driving license is released immediately if you pass.

There's nothing such as a "Social Security Number" in Italy; bureaucracy identifies all citizens by "Fiscal Code", which is a code that's computer-generated departing from the personal datas of the citizen. Like this:
-First 6 digits are the consonant letters of the citizen's SURNAME AND NAME. Being somebody's name MARCO ROSSI, my one is RSS MRC.
-Other digits come from the citizen's birth date: as in the example, for one that's born in March the 12th, 2006 will be 06C12 (06 from the year, C because C is the third letter of the Alphabet and March is the 3rd month of the Year, 12 for the day).
-Last 5 digits come from an automatically-generated code of the area where the citizen's born, while the last letter is assigned specifically to that' citizen's code, and to that only, in order to avoid errors based on name coincidences.

They don't care if "your vehicle is properly owned". That comes LATER, because you CAN NOT own a vehicle in Italy if you don't have a driving license.

They don't have title to ask you the fingerprints, if you have no criminal records. Besides, all male citizens above 18-y-o were fingerprinted back when there was the Obligatory Military Draft Service, when they went to the military medical visit. It's notorious that the Government kept them in the records, but formally, they don't have any right to ask you the fingerprints if you have no criminal record.
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...is always one step ahead "justice". In Sao Paulo (Brazil) there are already biometric passports available in the black market. If some of you are interested, I can check the price.
But I will get mine honestly before christmas, maybe paying less, but getting it later.
And let the honest pay for all
forever will be
that's why I say relax and come
because this kind of political rape is unavoidable

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