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Old 04-25-2006
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Default My Family's NHS nightmare...

My Aunt in the UK- who is somewhat well-off- had a stroke last year.

She waited 8 weeks to see a specialist.

While it is well-intended, introducing government bureaucracy to an already cumbersome system, and further curbing earnings while not curbing liability is a mistake. The free market will correct this if by no other means than by the damage to their intended customer base they do by overpricing their services.

In essence, socialized medicine (and this is an opinion shared by Canada's former director of NHS) creates a three-tiered system rather than the single-tiered system it purports to create. At the bottom are the people who dutifully wait their turn. Above them are those who by simple virtue of being shrill, or by knowing how to game the system, have barged to the front of the line. Above all of them are those with the money to simply fly to America and get what they want.

There's nothing too egalitarian or effective about waiting 8 weeks for a specialist after a stroke. You have an hour.

Like P.J. O'Rourke said- "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it's free!".

Then there's the whole principle of allowing the government to choose my level and type of healthcare, and to examine my health records at all. I should be able to have whatever healthcare I want to spend my money on. Likewise, if I should be so foolish as to elect not to pay for healthcare at all, it should be up to me to do so rather than have it swiped from my paycheck each week in order to susbidize others who may have in fact elected not to pay for theirs either.
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Thread split, anyone? This has gone far off the subject of what the parent poster wanted to discuss.
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Thread split, anyone? This has gone far off the subject of what the parent poster wanted to discuss.

I second the motion.
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Old 04-27-2006
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Thumbs up I second UZI's motion.

BUT... allow me one last post.

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There's nothing too egalitarian or effective about waiting 8 weeks for a specialist after a stroke. You have an hour.

On a side note, my brother was hospitalized in an ?lite Oncological Unit two hours after the diagnosis. This is the difference between a Welfare system that REALLY deserves this name, and one that just claims to be.

DO NOT tread on the Italian Public Health System. NOT with me. It saves lives. TO ME, it has clearly demonstrated it.
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no matter where you ship it...
there's regs against almost everything. Most paintballers and airsoft players I know in Canada have a difficult time getting anything through customs. And there's actually bans against some types of military style weapons-- for example, one person I know was devestated to find out he couldn't take his SL9 with him to canada.
At least it isn't Britain.

I own an SL8, it is not restricted in any way. It surprises me he couldn't bring in something that is almost exactly the same, but customs has the last say. I honestly do not reccomend trying to figure our laws. A good example is being able to own a VZ-58
or a PE90 but not an AK of any kind or a Sig 551. The only logic in it was slowly but surely disarming the public. Divide and conquer.:mad:

P.S. Thanks for the hijack guys.

Edited for brain fart.

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Would there be any way to lobby for legislation to allow the provinces to set their own gun laws? That might make things better. Or worse.
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Would there be any way to lobby for legislation to allow the provinces to set their own gun laws? That might make things better. Or worse.

Assuming the Conservatives stay in power that may be feesable within the next decade. My province would probably be flooded with suppressed automatics , while others like Ontario and Quebec would have NONE.(like I frigging care about them though)
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That'd be the upshot of it, I suppose.
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