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Have you seen that IDF-Paras are using Lamas, in the conflict? They bought them from South america. Which seems lika a good ideasince they can carry up to 27kg in rough terrain, and only have to eat once every two days.
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Have you seen that IDF-Paras are using Lamas, in the conflict? They bought them from South america. Which seems lika a good ideasince they can carry up to 27kg in rough terrain, and only have to eat once every two days.

You should add that is possible to eat them in case of food shortage...

...but it would be better to let the LLamas free and make the guys carry all the stuff by themselves. So maybe next time they'll think twice before engaging.

With all the technology we have, why still use animals to do the dirty job?

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Because llamas are quieter than camels, and much more sure footed in rough terrain. These factors also apply to any technological toys you could use as well.

Granted, they aren't exactly going to be part of any rapid deployment spearhead, but for foot patrols they make a lot of sense, especially in rough terrain. And no tech solution can come anywhere close to them for fuel efficiency. It might be a good idea for some of our troops up in parts of Afghanistan; I wouldn't be surprised at all if studies of our troops there were what brought the IDF to this conclusion.

Nobody has even considered this, but llamas also have a cute factor other solutions don't. It makes a force that has to occupy an area for a while look a little less personally threatening. That can sometimes be beneficial for soldiers who have to deal with civilians day to day; creating a perception more like that of a police officer than a soldier.
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Animals have a lot of perks and are in many regards more advanced technology then we can produce (at least if you would look at the efficency). They have been deployed for probably as long as anybody can remember in mountain areas in northern south-america. IDF (which might be be better at sharing experiences and learning from others than swatting insurgents) who saw that the terrain very much looked like the Golans took them in for tests (and anybody in the military foot-beating community would agree that carrying sure is a pain in the ass). Besides the insufficency of speed, im intrested in the reaction-capability of a force tied-to (watch the pic.) a gunshy Lama panicing and pulling you out of harms way...

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I doubt they'll have problems under fire; first part of training of military animals since the introduction of gunpowder has been adapting them to being around shooting. (Ditto with training people for combat.) It's been done with horses, camels, and dogs at the very least. Hell, thousands of people in the US have hunting dogs that won't run from a firefight, and those are civilian trained animals.

I've previously endorsed training and equipping dogs for special roles in urban warfare. Horses, dogs, camels, llamas... they have all had very close symbiotic relationships with humans for a very long time. For just as long they have accompanied us into danger; it comes with the territory.
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