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I came up with a substitute for a Hand Held Minigun, Its basically a 3 Barreled SMG/GPMG? based on the old 'Nordenfelt Gun' and will fire Magnum Rounds at a High Rate Of Fire, It would be lighter in weight, Less bulky and easier to move around with.

I would also use .30 carbine, 5.56NATO, 5.7mm or 4.7mm rounds for this weapon.









The only thing im stuck with is the Belt Feed/De Linking Device

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I get the general idea but, why a high rate of fire with hi-powered ammo? Especially when you choose such a bulky wristkicker-design, i think it would be impossible to hold without some kind of sling. Perhaps something like in Aliens?


But now were entering the machinegun size...

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He's trying to make the old DN3D ripper gun work.

Theres no particular reason WHY you'd need to go this far to make a magnum range SMG, and in fact the size and weight of this device would negate the primary reasons for having an SMG.

Keeping those barrels aligned would be a pain, unless you wanted 3 different firing points. Secondly, you wouldn't want 1 barrel firing and then 2 firing, that would create difficult recoil, 1-1-1 would be a better cam. Also, the recoil would still be tough and weird, even a rotary cannon imparts its recoil from a single point. This would have the recoil sweeping side to side. Fine for a mounted weapon, but trouble if your holding it.

A more conventional SMG would be better, if you need to mount a weapon it chould be something with more range or more power... like a 6.5 Grendel minigun or a 12 gauge chaingun.
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Nordenfelts machineguns are Cool things, but you pictured the 2-bbld version and there are others such as the 4-bbld or the 5bbld.
See it in action HERE
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British - (1880s) Although Nordenfelt produced other types of guns, when used in a colonial game the term usually refers to a multi-barreled machine gun (2 to 10 barrels) operated by a lever which was moved back and forth.

First used in the 1880's. Nordenfelt machine gun consisted of a rectangular steel frame with two barrels mounted on a tripod and fitted with a hopper magazine and a hand lever with which to operate the mechanism. The calibre is 0.45in. Adopted by the Royal Navy and used against torpedo boats and by landing parties.
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Maybe somethimg like this but feeding from the same?
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Hey ! A Villar-Perosa revival !
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Hey! A Villar-Perosa revival!

The Villar Perosa gave ultimately origin to the best submachinegun/machine-carbine of its time (the Beretta MAB), which gave lately origin to the best telescopic-bolt submachinegun EVER (no, not the UZI, but the Beretta PM-12/PM12-S/PM12-S2 system) but by itself, the Villar Perosa it is not a great deal. It's a pretty pain in the ass, if you ask me. It was conceived as a GROUND-BASED SUPPORT MACHINEGUN, which is odd since it fired the weak .9mm-Glisenti pistol ammunitions. This was primarily due to the fact that, back at the time (the World War 1), the automatic weapons were not seen or conceived as individual armaments but for squad support. Even the Germans, when they first handled the MP-18 submachinegun to their troopers, treated it like it was an "assault machinegun", giving for each user a second man to carry the ammunition (much like with the belt-fed MGs).

The Villar Perosa was a jamming piece of shit. Not to mention that it had two different barrels with two different magazines and two different working systems for each. It had one trigger for each barrel, and required two hands for being operated. A similar weapon today would be madness.
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The Villar Perosa gave ultimately origin to the best submachinegun/machine-carbine of its time (the Beretta MAB), which gave lately origin to the best telescopic-bolt submachinegun EVER (no, not the UZI, but the Beretta PM-12/PM12-S/PM12-S2 system) but by itself, the Villar Perosa it is not a great deal. It's a pretty pain in the ass, if you ask me. It was conceived as a GROUND-BASED SUPPORT MACHINEGUN, which is odd since it fired the weak .9mm-Glisenti pistol ammunitions. This was primarily due to the fact that, back at the time (the World War 1), the automatic weapons were not seen or conceived as individual armaments but for squad support. Even the Germans, when they first handled the MP-18 submachinegun to their troopers, treated it like it was an "assault machinegun", giving for each user a second man to carry the ammunition (much like with the belt-fed MGs).

The Villar Perosa was a jamming piece of shit. Not to mention that it had two different barrels with two different magazines and two different working systems for each. It had one trigger for each barrel, and required two hands for being operated. A similar weapon today would be madness.
I've also read in firearms litterature since I was a kid that the Villar-Perosa was the "ancester" of all SMGs, at least the concept thereof (an individual automatic weapon firing the ordnance pistol cartridge).
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