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Kerry is at it again. He just don't learn. And he absolutely refuses to apologize. Oh, he'll make excuse after excuse but, never an apology.

Kerry told a college crowd Monday: "You know education, if you make the most of it, and you study hard, and you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
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If you marry a rich foreign woman, you don't need an education. He's proof of that.

Fuck John Kerry, the man is a joke.
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Kerry told a college crowd Monday: "You know education, if you make the most of it, and you study hard, and you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

A good majority of the US Armed Forces personnel is composed by immigrants who serve to obtain the citizenship after the 4 years of duty, and by people (normally part of ethnic minorities: afro-americans, latinos, other immigrants) coming from the depressed areas of the Country.

Members of wealthy families, people who have instruction and a good work, will hardly enlist, unless they come from a family that has a tradition in the Military (but in that case, they'll better go to West Point than signing for G.I. service).
The ones that do it for "love of the Country" are a very strict minority. Enlisting today, in the USA like in Italy like in the rest of the world, is largely seen as a last-ditch way to escape unemployment and poverty. NOBODY wants to go to war. NOBODY. Nowhere. No way. Even myself, I'd enlist and go to fight with pride and honour, but ONLY and SOLELY if my Country was effectively invaded.

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A good majority of the US Armed Forces personnel is composed by immigrants who serve to obtain the citizenship after the 4 years of duty, and by people (normally part of ethnic minorities: afro-americans, latinos, other immigrants) coming from the depressed areas of the Country.

Members of wealthy families, people who have instruction and a good work, will hardly enlist, unless they come from a family that has a tradition in the Military (but in that case, they'll better go to West Point than signing for G.I. service).
The ones that do it for "love of the Country" are a very strict minority. Enlisting today, in the USA like in Italy like in the rest of the world, is largely seen as a last-ditch way to escape unemployment and poverty. NOBODY wants to go to war. NOBODY. Nowhere. No way. Even myself, I'd enlist and go to fight with pride and honour, but ONLY and SOLELY if my Country was effectively invaded.

Face the truth.

That's hardly the truth, for the US military at least. Maybe Italy's. My cousin didn't "need" to join the Army for those reasons. The US military isn't significantly composed of foreign nationals. (In fact, for a foreign national to join the US military, they must be legally residing in the US with a green card FIRST.) They are hardly a majority in US service; THAT is a distinctively european phenomena. I don't know how you think 7 percent is a majority. (Then again, seeing what happened after how the original Russian democratic election went and what followed, maybe I do.) There are a LOT who do it for love of country, sense of duty, and some simple affinity for military life. And yes, some go because they feel they are needed there.

I've attended college with a lot of military and I live in a significantly military town. The origins of many US military are decidedly middle class; many lower middle class from blue collar families, but not poverty stricken.

By the way, you don't just go to West Point. It's not UCLA or something.
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The US military isn't significantly composed of foreign nationals. (In fact, for a foreign national to join the US military, they must be legally residing in the US with a green card FIRST.) They are hardly a majority in US service; THAT is a distinctively european phenomena.

Wrong. VERY wrong. No European Country allows immigrants, neither if LEGAL, to join the Armed Forces (unless they are naturalized). In Italy, UK, Germany, France, Spain, etc., you join the Armed Forces only if you are a CITIZEN already.
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Wrong. VERY wrong. No European Country allows immigrants, neither if LEGAL, to join the Armed Forces (unless they are naturalized). In Italy, UK, Germany, France, Spain, etc., you join the Armed Forces only if you are a CITIZEN already.

OK then. Then I have no clue where your spurious assertion about the demographics of the US military come from; not from reality in the US or Europe. Where then?
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PT once again lies to make his point, and hopes nobody has the sense to call him on it.

First lie- American service demographics. More here.

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ó 49.2 percent of officers have advanced or professional degrees; 39.4 percent have masterís degrees, 8.5 percent have professional degrees and 1.3 percent have doctorate degrees.

ó 22.8 percent of company grade officers have advanced degrees; 16.5 percent have masterís degrees, 5.9 percent have professional degrees and 0.3 percent have doctorate degrees.

ó 85.4 percent of field grade officers have advanced degrees; 70.7 percent have masterís degrees, 12.1 percent have professional degrees and 2.5 percent have doctorate degrees.

ó 99.9 percent of the enlisted force have at least a high school education; 73.3 percent have some semester hours toward a college degree; 16.2 percent have an associateís degree or equivalent semester hours; 4.7 percent have a bachelorís degree; 0.7 percent have a masterís degree and .01 percent have a professional or doctorate degree.

Second lie- that no European country has foreigners serving in it's military.

Ever heard of the French foreign legion, dipshit?

Will PT retract his statements, or apologize for his blatant attempt to mischaracterize our military as being similar to the quasi-feudal system in Europe?

I bet he won't.
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Yes exactly, the French FOREIGN Legion. Which consists of mostly foreign nationals. Read before you type man.
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"The ones that do it for "love of the Country" are a very strict minority."

I'm one of them. And we're not a minority, far from it.
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A good majority of the US Armed Forces personnel is composed by immigrants who serve to obtain the citizenship after the 4 years of duty, and by people (normally part of ethnic minorities: afro-americans, latinos, other immigrants) coming from the depressed areas of the Country.

Members of wealthy families, people who have instruction and a good work, will hardly enlist, unless they come from a family that has a tradition in the Military (but in that case, they'll better go to West Point than signing for G.I. service).
The ones that do it for "love of the Country" are a very strict minority. Enlisting today, in the USA like in Italy like in the rest of the world, is largely seen as a last-ditch way to escape unemployment and poverty. NOBODY wants to go to war. NOBODY. Nowhere. No way. Even myself, I'd enlist and go to fight with pride and honour, but ONLY and SOLELY if my Country was effectively invaded.

Face the truth.

So, you agree with Kerry....that anyone in the military must be an uneducated idiot. PT, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You are a moron, so, why aren't you in Iraq too? Sheesh.....

And, just like his hero, Kerry, we will never hear an upright apology from PT either.
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